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Posted: Wednesday, 09 April 2008 5:59PM

KCBS Expanded Coverage: Olympic Torch Relay

The planned closing ceremony for the Olympic torch at the San Francisco Bay waterfront was canceled and a smaller, quieter one took place at San Francisco International Airport. In a move that surprised the media and thousands of spectators and protestors gathered along the Embarcadero, the Olympic torch relay took off Wednesday afternoon on a route far different than what was announced.  Read the complete article here.

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04/08/2008 10:57AM
To an extent
As long as the protest is legal, I don't have a problem with it. But the laws are there to protect the rights of everyone else, so keep the protests within the law.
04/08/2008 11:10AM
Only some of them
Keep it legal and I don't have a problem with it.
04/08/2008 11:30AM
OK with protests
The Tibetans and Sudanese would be murdered or in prison for the actions on the Golden Gate and in Paris. We should be greatful we live in a nation where all ideas can be expressed.
04/08/2008 12:52PM
Liberals are amusing
All the wackos are converging on SF to support Tibet. But bring up Iraq, where we actually did something to stop genocide, and they all turn red and scream for us to pull out and let them kill each other.
04/08/2008 1:35PM
Say NO to protestors
For god's sake, let the game be a game.
04/08/2008 1:38PM
To "liberals are amusing"
Why do you presume anyone protesting the dictatorship in China are liberals?
04/08/2008 3:02PM
Thank you for my freedom
It is our ethical and humanitarian obligation to demand governments not to be permitted to partake in religious persecution. History has already established the horrific ramifications that religious genocide has resulted in. Ask a WWII survivor or one of the millions exiled from Bosnia or Rowanda. In honor of my religious freedom, I shall pray for yours. Free Tibet. From a Conservative who carries a gun. :)
04/08/2008 3:15PM
Phil Green
Take the politics out of the Olympic Games.
04/08/2008 3:25PM
Keep it legal
While I totally understand and agree with the view of China, I ndon't agree with any means of protest that interfere with the lives of the General public. Most of the folks these protest impact are those trying to support their families. I'm discusted by how the Chinese treat their own, but don't need to be prevented from coming to do my job in San Francisco. My only hope is that those who protest think of what they do and who it truely affects. FYI: It's not China.
04/08/2008 3:40PM
republican unamused by that liberals are amusing comment above
what genocide in iraq? there was't one, bar the horrors of the marsh arab slaughter conducted by saddam. but as a republican i am horrified that over one million iraqi civilians have died as a result of our army being in iraq. that scares me. so my sympathy here is with those protestors who don't want to see the chinese eliminate the tibetan people and culture, as they have been trying to do. surely one can still be republican and empathised with other people? it's republicans like you who are going to lose us the next election, sorry to say
04/08/2008 3:45PM
i grew up under apartheid
i'm a white south african. let me tell you, as a kid in the apartheid regime it was a real shock to know that the world was boycotting our sports events. that made the biggest change of all, knowing that, in my family. we were shocked by how the world felt and about us and how they disapproved. sport is much less important than torture and oppression and killing people. yes, it's fun, but who wants to run or do hurdles when not doing so might save lives in tibet? so, yes, protest is good. trust me, the chinese have noticed, as we did, what people abroad felt.
04/08/2008 3:47PM
phil green should be called phil red
are you a chinese national by any chance? over here in our free society, but supportign the society you do not choose to live in at long distance?
04/08/2008 4:58PM
Let the games go on
Phil Green is right, take politics out of the games.
04/08/2008 5:26PM
Patricia
We must give voice to those who cannot speak! How would you like to live in a country where you could be killed for having a picture of the Pope in your home or on your person?
04/08/2008 5:35PM
Hypocrates
All these free Tibet people are hypocrates, why don't they also fly the banners to free Hawaii or free Native Americans? free Northern Ireland? Death to Dalai Lama!
04/08/2008 5:39PM
JK
It is sad
04/08/2008 5:43PM
Stop the Madness!
just call it off! a waste of money and a potential waste of health and well fare for all involved - it is asking for trouble - I support the protesters but why even let it happen? yes China owns us but come on!
04/08/2008 5:45PM
Communist China
Let's call China what it is....Communist China...we are all supporting Communist China when we purchase items from Communist China...we are paying a price ... we are selling out ourselves and our country for cheap goods.
04/08/2008 5:46PM
don't be like CNN
I think the western media coverage on recent Tibet incident totally offline; and result nothing but anit-western among the Chinese. Da Lai has very good PR and most western people see Tibet same as green party or environmental; something like fashion. they just forget the average life-span only 30 and now is 60 , they are living people now the someone's pet!
04/08/2008 6:30PM
Reply to: Keep it legal
I does affect China. Originally, they plan to use the torch relay as publicity stunt to advertise China. Now , it has become a publicity nightmare for them. The torch relay had drawn much more attention to the cause of Tibet than the Tibetans could ever dreamed of. I'm sorry for the inconveniences that the protesters might have caused, but as a free society; we can afford to sacrifice a little for the greater cause of humanity.
04/08/2008 6:36PM
Freedom Costs
Freedom cost much and has a very high maintenance bill. Is it worth it...YES!!! My father, a WWII veteran, has raised me to RESPECT ALL.. as a Chinese American, I'm very grateful for this America we live in. Let is do both, Protest and Game. Protest not just by shouting... but, by doing business in China....go to China and vote by supporting the average Chinese over there. Games... let every free nation's athlete talk about how free they are to each of the athlete from countries which there is no freedom. Plant an idea... water it... then watch for the fruit.
04/08/2008 7:00PM
Racism, biased coverage
I am Chinese and I have never heard any newspaper, radio station, and tv interview the ordinary Chinese Americans regarding our viewpoint on Tibet. Yet extra time coverage on those caucasians who climbed GG Bridge. Who's Lauren S? What about us, those who live in Chinatown. Your one sided coverage just show how biased and ignorant the western world is with Chinese. So now the government shuts up but the citizens decided to express their bigotry and holier than thou attitude toward China. Lighten up, Olympic will be showcase in China regardless of whether you make a fool of yourself or not.
04/08/2008 7:09PM
What do you westerners know about human rights?
To all those who rant and rave about Tibet. GET A LIFE! It's none of your business! Before you go judging Chinese people, why don't you tell your government to return all the lands to the Native American Indians? Why don't you tell England to give back the Falkland Islands? Your holier than thou attitude makes me sick! From a Chinese viewpoint: this is a mutation of the imperialistic and colonial attitude that the whites have always display toward China since the Ching dynasty. Nothing new here except the bigotry is fully display down to the citizens' level. Don't tell China what to do when the US government interfere with other nations' internal affair. Similarly now you the citizens are trying to tell us that you are smarter, more righteous and can tell us what to do again. Shame on you, those who hate Chinese & China behind the "Free Tibet" banner. China & Chinese are no longer the same, yet you are the same ugly people inside.
04/08/2008 7:48PM
lets enjoy the sport
omg, what does climbing the bridge have to do with a kid who has worked for YEARS to be the best in his sport. go home and write your congressional representative. let the kids compete in peace and the rest of us (who believe laws are more than a suggestion) enjoy the ceremony.
04/08/2008 7:50PM
Game is on
Thank you KCBS for lying to the Bay Area Americans - YOu just forgot to mention that those Tibetan protesters are slave masters who use to kill their fellow tibetans for fun. Please wake up Americans - when you support them, you are supporting those who Lincoln fought against, and you are supporting the idea to send our fellow Black Americans back to slavery
04/08/2008 7:55PM
Protect our Freedom
The truth: Think for a minute how an ordinary Tibetan can come to America 50 years ago: The truth is, those who are protesting came from families who were slave masters. They used to kill the tibetans who now live in China for fun. When you support them,you support the idea to send our fellow Black Americans back to slavery - Say no!
04/08/2008 8:10PM
Olympic Games
Let's concentrate on the Olympics and those who participate
04/08/2008 9:10PM
from a conservative
As a card carrying conservative, I say let the protest begin. When evil is allowed to exist in the dark dungeon of Communism, we all lose. The torch ceremony is letting the world sees into the tyrrany of Communism and the destruction of freedom and liberty. I pray that one day, the people of Tibet, China, and Vietnam can break away from the tyrrany of Communism.
04/08/2008 9:33PM
Read Wikipedia on Tibet
Tibet has not been an independent country since they allied themselves with Kublai Khan's Mongol hordes. They invaded China back then and the Chinese got revenge, all 1000 years ago. Who cares about a bunch of yak herders who converted to buddhism? Maybe China should withdraw and let McDonalds, Disney, and WalMart take over the place!
04/08/2008 9:36PM
China should pull out
And let Exxon, McDonalds, and WalMart take over the country. See what the Dalai LLama says about then.
04/08/2008 9:38PM
Double Standard!!!
How can the US judge other countries' human right? The biggest human right violation happening right now is not in Tibet, but in Iraq. Millions of people lost their home, hundred of thousands innocent lost their lives; tortures are encouraged by the highest level of the %u201Chuman right%u201D government.
04/08/2008 9:50PM
Concerned
I'd like to bring my child to see the olympic torch. I'm concerned about the protests getting violent.
04/08/2008 9:54PM
It's sport games not game for politician or voilence-maker!
Dose anyone is talking about genocide in Iraq? are you protester or violence-maker. Here is USA with free speach but with good law in force, too. Let the games be games. Don't play politics here.
04/08/2008 10:34PM
Know the Truth
How can anyone support what is going on with the preparation of the Olympics with continued stories such as the one from the LA Times:"BEIJING -- In the shadow of the $440-million "bird's nest" Olympic stadium, migrant workers toil for a few dollars a day. A few miles away, bulldozers destroy a neighborhood where petitioners gather to seek justice from the government. Farther afield, foreign journalists endure sporadic harassment despite promised press freedoms, with Chinese reporters, bloggers and activists facing far greater restrictions. As Beijing prepares for the 2008 Summer Olympics in August, planners hope the outside world sees the glam architecture and ignores the poverty and social tension in the shadows. I say, continue to protest.....
04/08/2008 10:41PM
Iraq: The worst Human Right Violation
The human right in Today%u2019s China is far from ideal. But ironically, now it%u2019s best than ever (compared with Mao%u2019s time and before), and it%u2019s on a fast track to improve. Any external pressure will only create strong nationalism and may cause back-fire. Also, the worst human right violation is not happening in Tibet, it%u2019s in Iraq.
04/08/2008 11:27PM
China: Save Face by Ending Hypocrisy
It is time for the Chinese government to have some re-education and examine themselves. If they had not brutally suppressed the Tibetan people for 50 years with torture, killing, imprisonment, and starvation, the peaceful Tibetans might not be protesting so loudly at the Chinese attempt to bring the torch through Tibet, the apple of their eye.... ummm... China, the only way to save face here is to end the hypocrisy. And end the suppression,
04/09/2008 3:34AM
Let's not forget June 4
Tibet or Tinanmen, China's ruling party is still developing its own political route.
04/09/2008 6:13AM
Take a deep breath
Upset at China? Stop buying products made there. But wait, then you'd have to get rid of your iPod, etc. Enough hypocrisy, America.
04/09/2008 7:19AM
CHUCK
Boycott the SPONSERS. Leave the torchbearers, athletes and games alone. Show the official sponsors that they allied with the wrong country.
04/09/2008 7:41AM
It's not about the torch
Regardless of what you think about the Olympics, Americans have an obligation to protest the violation of human rights.
04/09/2008 7:46AM
Fix home first
With all the protests and people giving money away to other countries we fall deeper in to a economic hell. We need to focus on how to help America first. Then once our children are not hungry and our streets are safe to walk down again we can help other people. It is such a waste all these people who protest against something they cannot change. I think there is a better way to spend that energy!!!
04/09/2008 8:42AM
Olympics games should be about the athletes
Keep politics out of it. If protesters insists that the games be a political pawn, than cancel the whole damn thing. Its become too commercialized and have lost its real purpose. Who is going to loss out? The athletes! There are always 2 sides. Western media is propaganda and only shows one sided view. True news reporting get the news from all angles.
04/09/2008 9:23AM
Where were they then?
Nice of the Tibet liberation supporters to jump on board now after almost 60 years of occupation...
04/09/2008 9:25AM
Hope that day never comes.
When China attacked VietNam (communist Brother) in the late 70. They dumped poison into the wells and rivers; burned everything down. We have the obligation to let the world know the cruelty of Chinese goverment and their ambitions to bully and dominate weaker countries. Thanks.
04/09/2008 9:29AM
Not about the Torch
You all should look at the pictures where a Tibetan protester attacks a girl in wheelchair in the torch relay in Paris. Yes, this is not about the torch. The violence of Tibetan protesters made me sick!! How are they better than the communists?
04/09/2008 9:32AM
Protect Motherland!
Tibet has been part of China long before Andrew Jackson's manifest destiny which took over the lands and resources that belong to the American Indians. Oops, I forgot about the land from Mexico like Texas, Ca, and the western states. Fair exchange, wefree Tibet and you cede back a equal portion of the land for American Indians and Mexican government. Ha Ha Ha, what a jokee!
04/09/2008 9:36AM
Can Alaska or Hawaii be independent
Those of you who support Tibet independence should ask yourself: Can US allow Alaska or Hawaii go independent? If not, do not even think of Tibet independence! Tibet has allied with China since ancient times and it is now part of China. There is no way any Chinese government no matter it is communist or other parties will let Tibet go. Be realistic on this.
04/09/2008 9:43AM
tibetan terrorist
they deserve go to hell
04/09/2008 9:43AM
The Olympics is a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics.
The Olympics is a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics.
04/09/2008 9:44AM
don't support
go to protest in the chinese consulate if they want. Don't try to hijack the olympic game.
04/09/2008 9:45AM
Olymoics is NOT a playgroud for Politics
The Olympics is a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics.
04/09/2008 9:46AM
Shame on protestors!!
Don't mix Olympics and politics.
04/09/2008 9:48AM
Wendy
Most protesters are brainwashed or got paid. Most of them even never been Tibet. They only feeded by TV like CNN.
04/09/2008 9:50AM
no comments
Please read history book and visit that place before making any comments. News does not tell you all the truth. News is just a product to make a money. I happened to had lived in China for 30 years and have been living in US for 15 years. I saw people from both sides have been brainwashed by news (product for making money). - a california republican. (by all standard, I am a minority :)
04/09/2008 9:51AM
say NO to Da Lai
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY http://youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas
04/09/2008 9:52AM
Say NO to Protest
No politics in Olympic
04/09/2008 9:58AM
tibetians are gonna pay for this
u think u can escape being punished by breaking the law? be prepared to be judged!
04/09/2008 9:59AM
Tibetans were freed
from being burned alive by Lamas and their owners. Why do they want to rob the Olympic torch from those runners? Do they want to burn themselves alive to show gratitude to the Chinese government?
04/09/2008 10:03AM
How much do you really know Tibet and REAL LOCAL Tibetans?
I fully respect that everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I especially respect those who ask some basic and necessary questions before taking a strong stand. Questions such as: 1) Have you ever been to Tibet? 2) How much do you know about? Where did you obtain your knowledge if you have never there before? 3) Have you heard stories from both sides? 4) Have you heard from Tibetans that live in Tibet?
04/09/2008 10:04AM
Olympic belongs to People not government
The protesters of Olympic is wrong in their judgment. The Olympic in Beijing has the support of the more than 1 billion people in China. By protesting the Beijing Olympic, they have alienated these 1 billion Chinese people. Without the support and sympathy of other ethnic people in China, the Tibetan cause whatever it is will be destined to be a losing one.
04/09/2008 10:05AM
Tibetans were freed by the Chinese government
from being burt alive by their owners and lamas. Those protestors certainly miss their grandparents' privilege to enslave other tibetans.But be careful, rob the Olympic torch may get themselves burned.
04/09/2008 10:06AM
Support_Fix home first
Please safe ourself 1st! I just paid $4/gal on gas this morning
04/09/2008 10:07AM
Read the history
I don't have a problem with any protest as long as it is non-violent, obeys the law and respects other people's human rights. For whoever support Free-Tibet, if you have never been in China or Tibet, read the history before you believe anything or anyone. Make your own decision based upon your own observation and judgment.
04/09/2008 10:09AM
To the post mention Tibet and June 4 Tinanmen.
I was in Beijing in the Spring and Summer of 1989. I spent more than 3 month at Tinamen Square. I was one of the protesters. I am still proud of what I did. I also had the opportunities talking to people in China recently about Tibet. What happened in Tibet is VERY VERY different from what happened in Tinanment in 1989. This time, I am actully, even to my own suprise, I choose on the chinese government's side.
04/09/2008 10:16AM
Politics and Olympics don't mix!
Politics and Olympics don't mix!
04/09/2008 10:20AM
Please go away protestors
If you can be quiet and listen to what others say,you cannot be so aggressive like this!
04/09/2008 10:21AM
I'd like to ask all protestors read a little bit of Tibet's history...
Tibet was never an independent country, and before 1950, it was ruled by slave masters...
04/09/2008 10:22AM
Support_What do you westerners know about human rights?
Westerners, you're letting the "Free Tibet" people fooling you. Are you asking another Vietnam War or Iraq war?? Please educate yourself 1st, by reading Chinese history before makeing comments on "Free Tibet".
04/09/2008 10:25AM
Don't use the festival for the politican purpose.
Chinese People (including Tibetans) have been suffering for centuries. Now Chinese people (including Tibetans) are so happy to have the world festival in Beijing. Why dont you grant them the happiness?
04/09/2008 10:26AM
JUSTICE- PERHAPS
tHE olympic TORCH SHOULD NOT BE IMPEDED BECAUSE OF CHINA'S INTERNAL PROBLEM WITH TIBET. KEEP THEIR WARS 7,000 MILES AWAY! WE MAY THINK INJUSTICE IS BEING DONE, BUT WE ARE ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. I HAVE BEEN TO BOTH CHINA AND TIBET AND WILL GO AGAIN. CHINA WAS OFF LIMITS TO WESTERNERS FOR YEARS. NOW IT IS OPEN, BUT WILL IT STAY OPEN IF WE ALLOWTHEIR SHOWCASE OLYMPICS TO BE RUINED? I DON'T BELIEVE BEJING IS READY TO HOST THE OLYMPICS. THEY SIMPLY HAVE NOT POVIDED ADEQUATELY FOR THE HORDES PLANNING TO ATTEND. THE WEST WON'T PUT UP WITH THEM OR THEIR PREPARATIONS. ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN TO CHINA. Disgusted in Concord
04/09/2008 10:26AM
Respect athletes
Find the Tibet in the map and read Tibet history, and then talk. Hijacking torch from a poor disabled woman in the wheel chair is what they called %u201Chuman right%u201D.
04/09/2008 10:28AM
"study history, not the media. the truth is not to be found in the television broadcast"
As always, when you dig it up by yourself, the media only disappoints. "study history, not the media. the truth is not to be found in the television broadcast", check out this and realize what is THE TRUTH. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY
04/09/2008 10:29AM
True Peace, Please
Do it peacefully please when you exercise your right! Respect other people's right first before you gain the respect you deserve!
04/09/2008 10:29AM
shame on protestors
Free North Ireland! Free Quebec!
04/09/2008 10:31AM
Media is so biased
why no media wants to hear the true voice of Chinese people, the 1.3 billion population, which counts for 1/5 of the population of the whole world... what do they afraid of?!
04/09/2008 10:31AM
Hypocrisy
The Chinese government has been murdering Christians (& anyone else who disagrees with them) & driving believers of many faiths underground for years. Now, all of the sudden, a celebrity cause such as Tibet comes to the fore & everyone is clamoring about human rights! Where have you been, people? Where were you when China was granted most favored nation trade status? Where were you when our former President exported tons of nuclear technology? Now we are buying their exports like there's no tomorrow & lining up like lemmings to pay $4/ gallon for our gas because China's demand has begun to outstrip ours. Start thinking!
04/09/2008 10:32AM
Liar CNN
how many of you guys have ever been to Tibet? If u have never been there, how can you make comments? Are those protestors legal? Which law? Media broadcasting is legal, but immoral. They are not speaking for justice now.
04/09/2008 10:38AM
wiki tibet
If you havn't learned about Tibet except from the news, for god's sake, type "wiki tibet" in google and than read it before you comment on Tibet!